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I wish it need not have happened in my time. (startrek.website)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

while people will still rewatch LOTR in decades.

Ah, I prefer "reread". LOTR movies too have quite a lot of downsides. Like ignoring the whole of the Old Forest. And they lack the lore feeling which I can't describe easily.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I like doing a reread/rewatch. Read the hook then watch it come to life. Honestly going back after all these years I find it like the movies more than when they released even. At the time I was young and wanted them to be more like the books, but as an adult I can understand and even agree with a lot of the changes. For instance, aragon is pretty different in that he's given more of an arc in the films, and I like that. But of course there's a thousand things I wish they had time to flesh out more. If they are going to do a remake I wish they'd do a series that allow them to slow down and really get into a lot of that. That's really the only way I can see them even possibly living up to the Jackson films

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

At the time I was young and wanted them to be more like the books, but as an adult I can understand and even agree with a lot of the changes.

This sentence seems a bit manipulative, as if taking that point of view made one "more adult". I'd understand resistance to movies themselves waning, as a separate thing of art of their own, being a sign of that.

is pretty different in that he’s given more of an arc in the films

Really?

Aragorn and elves, Aragorn and Gandalf, Aragorn and Arwen, Aragorn and the Rangers, Aragorn and Sauron even, Aragorn and Denethor, Aragorn and Boromir, Aragorn and Frodo, Aragorn and Sam, Aragorn and travel, even Aragorn and Gollum, Aragorn and Gimli, Aragorn and Eomer ...

Wouldn't seem so for me.

Sorry for the Reddit-ish tone.

If they are going to do a remake I wish they’d do a series that allow them to slow down and really get into a lot of that.

At this point I'd just want to live till the IP expires and see fans try.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can only speak for myself. I think personally I have a better perspective on things now than when I was 14, but I guess I could be wrong.

I think you've misinterpreted what I mean by arc. I guess I meant the character undergoes more personal growth in the films. In the books aragon knows what he's about from day one. He is stoic af. And I get why he's written that way and why some would prefer that. In the films he's much more unsure about himself and over the course of the trilogy you see him kind of grow into being the king so that by the time he takes the crown it feels like you saw the internal journey that got him there. In the books of course we know that this period is what, like, a couple years of his very long life so that would feel more out of place.

Anyway, those kinds of changes bothered me as a teenager, but looking back at them now I feel differently. That's not to say I like all the choices Jackson made, but I've come around on some, understand others better, and have seen enough other material jump from book to film to be super grateful for the effort that whole team put in to try and do these films right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I guess I meant the character undergoes more personal growth in the films. In the books aragon knows what he’s about from day one.

Not entirely, if you remember Dunharrow and the Palantir. And then his other transformations, in Rivendell, in Lorien, in Rohan, and after the coronation, and more. Other than those, where would a 70 years old man grow?

In the films he’s much more unsure about himself and over the course of the trilogy you see him kind of grow into being the king so that by the time he takes the crown it feels like you saw the internal journey that got him there.

Well, in the books it was a 50 years long journey.

In the books of course we know that this period is what, like, a couple years of his very long life so that would feel more out of place.

Yes, I think we understand each other.

those kinds of changes bothered me as a teenager,

For me personally they felt strange because, ahem, Aragorn seemed simply unfit for his role. A person which wouldn't end up on that track.