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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (7 children)

is that enough? Should I continue?

There are more?

But to dig into this ...

  • Separating late-period from early period Discovery doesn't really work. As much as I like the time jump, it's pretty much the same show, and Burhnam is still Spock's sister.
  • Picard is still a relatively hard se-quel, which resonates with the essence of my argument ... plus it had a Soong. I'm not sure you can describe S3 as any less nostalgia baiting or digging into established IP than any prequel. Not sure Picard, especially S3, is a convincing example of "Star Trek doesn't have a default setting".

Which leaves Lower Decks and Prodigy ... which are by my reckoning the two relatively universally appreciated Trek projects since Voyager (at least amongst those that have watched them) ... which I would claim is not a coincidence (not that we all have to like the same things).

They're both animated too which I feel exemplifies the risk-aversion modern Trek production has to "new" projects/characters etc.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Separating late-period from early period Discovery doesn’t really work.

So your contention is that the third and fourth seasons of Discovery are a prequel to...something?

Picard is still a relatively hard se-quel, which resonates with the essence of my argument

Which makes it a prequel? Your argument is that the default setting is "prequel."

But okay, prequels are bad and sequels are bad, so I guess we need to pick one episode of "old Trek," and all future series and films should occur simultaneously with that episode.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Sighs. For a moderator I have to say this is poor form.

You’re putting words into my mouth, putting up straw man args, misinterpreting my statements and not really caring to try to engage with my side of the discussion all while being unnecessarily aggressive for what is a difference of opinion.

I hope you’re just in a bad mood.

But to clarify … it’s simple … leaning into old IP vs coming up with new IP.

I think there’s been too much of the former and not enough of the latter. I fear this new thing will continue that trend. Your argument about “default setting” is basically the same thing I’m saying where I think the interest in anything that can be directly tied to anything TNG and earlier is the “default setting”.

so I guess we need to pick one episode of “old Trek,” and all future series and films should occur simultaneously with that episode.

Don’t know where you pulled that from. It’s literally the opposite of what I’m saying. Really not sure what’s going on here.

And TBH, I’m going to report this, whatever that means in this situation. You’re being a moderator factors into my decision to do so.

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