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[Meta] Admins (not mods) here are already swinging around the content-removal-hammer
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this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2024
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Really showing your ass here by suggesting that you want to move to an instance with pedo content.
edit: undeleted for posterity
I see two options as to why you made that comment:
1: you just blindly believe what that admin said and have no opinion of your own, if that is the case I highly doubt a discussion is possible
2: you actually believe anime is csam in which case a discussion won't be possible either because we don't share the same definition of what csam is
As a closing note I find it hilarious that someone from hexbear of all places tries to ridicule people for trying to move to a safe space for their community
Edit: case in point against the csam claim is the fact that the instance in question got re-added to join-lemmy.org because the material that got it removed was not remotely seen as csam by the other maintaners
Well at first I assumed there was probably validity to what Dessalines said, because I consider them credible and I know enough about anime to know that there is a lot of csam that hides behind bullshit justifications. Even in this thread there's discussion of a show that blatantly tittilates the audience with underage characters that would absolutely qualify as csam in any other community except in the anime community, for some reason.
And then I went onto the anime lemmy everyone is surreptitiously talking about, and the literal first post I saw was a body pillow design featuring an underage character that is right on the line of being csam. It was the only example I saw in my brief look, and it didn't quite qualify, which is why I came back and deleted my comment.
I don't care about what the maintainers' view of the matter is, I make (and sometimes delete) my comments based on my own view of it.
Emphasis mine. If what you are saying is indeed correct (is it? dunno), this is a sign that the acronym "CSAM" was completely derailed.
Originally the expression "child sexual abuse material" was coined to avoid implications of consent brought by the word "pornography", and it boils down to "evidence of child sexual abuse". Consent and sexual abuse are legal notions that only apply to real people, not to fictional characters.
In the meantime, at worst the instance in question depicts images of clearly fictional characters in suggestive poses and/or clothing. It does not classify even as pornography, let alone sexual abuse. (Note that not even hentai depicting clearly adult characters is allowed in that instance.)
Given that this is a touchy subject, I think that this matter is better handled neither by the maintainers' views nor by our own views, but by 1) legal definitions of governments that might be relevant in the matter, and 2) explicit moral premises.