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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (29 children)

True, just clarifying the best case scenario. Did the Hawaiian people recently vote to leave the union that I am unaware of?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (28 children)

When did they vote to join? They fought pretty hard to keep their rightfully elected government.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (27 children)

in 1959, with a 93%+ majority:

Hawaii—a U.S. territory since 1898—became the 50th state in August, 1959, following a referendum in Hawaii in which more than 93% of the voters approved the proposition that the territory should be admitted as a state.

There were many Hawaiian petitions for statehood during the first half of the 20th century. The voters wished to participate directly in electing their own governor and to have a full voice in national debates and elections that affected their lives. The voters also felt that statehood was warranted because they had demonstrated their loyalty—no matter what their ethnic background—to the U.S. to the fullest extent during World War II.

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On June 27, 1959, a referendum asked residents of Hawaiʻi to vote on the statehood bill; 94.3% voted in favor of statehood and 5.7% opposed it. The referendum asked voters to choose between accepting the Act and remaining a U.S. territory. The United Nations' Special Committee on Decolonization later removed Hawaiʻi from its list of non-self-governing territories.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's more than a little dishonest to say that the native Hawaiians voted for this. At the time of this referendum, they composed about 15% of the population and their culture and identity had been suppressed for generations.

The US government even admitted in 1993 that the native people never agreed to this.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think it’s more than a little dishonest to say that the native Hawaiians voted for this.

almost as dishonest as claiming is said something I didn’t and then moving the goalposts to win an argument…

At the time of this referendum, they composed about 15% of the population and their culture and identity had been suppressed for generations.

irrelevant. sad, but irrelevant. thy got to vote, just like anyone else, and, even by your numbers, 2/3 of THAT population voted for statehood.

The US government even admitted in 1993 that the native people never agreed to this.

that’s not what that says, but it’s nice to know how easy it is for you to lie to try to get ahead in an argument. “winning” online debates must be very important for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Swarming lands with your settlers and then claiming b-but they muh voted for it, is peak lib cracker imperialism. The french did the same in New Caledonia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Don't forget about saying the settlers have a legitimate say on what happens to Hawaii.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Swarming lands with your settlers and then claiming b-but they muh voted for it, is peak lib cracker imperialism. The french did the same in New Caledonia.

so, when you can’t argue with facts, you rest to redefining words, personal insults, and racist slurs.

classy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn’t argue with you, I made clear statements about your nature and your character. Its up to you to change that and if you refuse, well thats just proves me right in the end.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I didn’t argue with you

yeah, that’s why I said “when you can’t argue…”

I made clear statements about your nature and your character

you had a tantrum and hurtled racist slurs and insults

well thats just proves me right in the end.

you’e right because you have racist tantrums and can’t make rational, fact-based arguments? interesting take...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
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