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[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (42 children)

Hit the ground running deploying...pretty much anything.

Was running game servers on my Windows PC through Docker and they were super easy to set up. I got a new PC and decided to repurpose my old computer into an Ubuntu server to get some experience with Unix. I have only been more frustrated once in my entire life. Sure, once things are set up on Linux they are really powerful, but the barrier to entry is so absurdly high and running anything "out of the box" is literally impossible by design.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (23 children)

That's a letter U problem. I can administer Linux a bajillion times easier than windows, because I do it for a living, and haven't touched MS since Server 2010. Also Docker in Windows is LOL. You're leveraging Linux to shit on Linux. Lets do that all in IIS and see how you feel.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is what’s holding the community back. The “get good” advice isn’t really advice and keeps Linux from hitting the mainstream. I get it you’re amazing at Linux but the rest of us shouldn’t have to go back to school to get a computer degree and become a Linux professional in order to use it. This is the same person that replies to questions about Linux with “why do you need the GUI just use the command line instead or it’s dead simple just type: followed by like 80 lines of code that people can’t make heads or tails of because they’re novices. Man I get that you want to flex but it’s a pretty strange flex.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

OTOH, many people can't make heads from tails regarding windows, icons or buttons, and they don't get the contextual clues that the GUI gives for any operating system. They don't see them, and if they do they're unable to make the automatic inferences most of us long time users obtain from them. They act as people who are blind from birth and suddenly see, who have problems to understand tridimensionality; the GUI is not in their mind model of how to work with computers, and they have a lot of difficulty interacting with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is your point meant to be that these people who already have trouble learning GUIs would somehow have an easier time intuiting command line?

If that's correct, that's an absolutely BS argument

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is your point meant to be that these people who already have trouble learning GUIs would somehow have an easier time intuiting command line?

No, my point is that they're lost causes and they're untrainable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

No, my point is that they’re lost causes and they’re untrainable.

Ah... I still don't get how that's meant to refute the previous person's point that elitism and the "git gud" attitude around Linux contributes to it's inability to become mainstream.

If anything your reply only reinforces their point, because you seem to be suggesting we throw anybody who struggles to learn it to the curb.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So that makes the “get good” advice valid? What are you talking about bro? I didn’t say Linux isn’t valid. I think you must have replied to me specifically on accident because your response isn’t germane to my reply. Or if you feel it is please explain. Make sure you use as many polysyllabic words as possible. I think you wrote up one of the Linux documents I’m to understand.

Or maybe I’ll just say: cool story bro.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So that makes the “get good” advice valid?

No, they're untrainable. It's literally impossible for them to get any good. At all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Perfect. Good solution. Linux only for the elite.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

~~Linux~~ Computers only for the ~~elite~~ people willing to engage their brains.

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

You have completely lost the plot. This topic is about Windows and Linux ease of use. I don’t know what you’re talking about anymore.

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