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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

US economy would collapse overnight without China, thinking that US has some sort of upper hand here is the height of comedy. US doesn't produce much of anything today, its industrial base is around 11% of its GDP, and there is no substitute for China which is central to most supply chains.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

China needs buyers. If the US stopped buying from China, it would be the same situation in China. Their economies are so intertwined that a war between them, even just financially, would ruin both

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China has plenty of buyers, that's the whole point of BRI and BRICS. Literally all of the world constitutes China's buyers with US being a small portion of that. China would be hurt by an economic war with US, but US would be completely devastated by it because US depends on essential products and commodities it can't get anywhere else. Meanwhile, people thought Russia would be ruined economically once being cut out of western economic system and here we are with even IMF now projecting growth for their economy. Incidentally, trade between China and Russia has already jumped to over 200 billion if you want to see an example of China replacing US with a friendly trading partner.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I want to point out that the fraction of imports/exports between the USA and China is roughly symmetric (by monetary value). In 2022, about 16% of China's exports were to the USA; in 2021, about 17% of the USA's imports were from China.

That being said, you're probably making a valid point about which items are flowing, not just the raw value of goods.

Also, I would think it's generally easier for a producer to find new buyers of what it's already producing, than for a buyer to find a new producer for what it needs.

Edit to add: If we look at the ratio "Exports/Imports", we have about 0.3 for the USA with China, and we have about 3.3 for China with the USA.