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KDE's Nate Graham On X11 Being A Bad Platform & The Wayland Future (www.phoronix.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of "Wayland breaking everything" isn't really accurate.

"In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!"

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago (30 children)

Every change will bring it's fair share of complainers, not much we can do about that. LILO to GRUB, SysV to systemd and now X11 to Wayland. No one is forcing your hand (unless you use a pre-packaged distro like Ubuntu/Fedora, in which case you go with whatever the distro provides), keep using X11 if you want stability, if you wanna dip your toes in bleeding-edge software and increase it's userbase to show hardware manufacturers that their drivers need to be updated (I'm looking at you, NVIDIA) then feel free to mess around.

Eventually the day will come when Wayland apps will simply not launch on X11 and you'll migrate too.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Every change will bring it’s fair share of complainers

sometimes the complainers are right and sometimes they aren't

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And when they're right, it's usually addressed. I say usually because GNOME exists.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In case of Gnome it was addressed, just by different people. Gnome 2 continues to live on as MATE, so anyone who doesn't like Gnome 3 can use it instead.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Likewise, KDE3 got forked to Trinity. But KDE kept producing (largely) quality software, so Trinity is pretty much an anecdote now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I don't understand why anyone ever expects a different outcome. They fork something that has quite some investment into the original version. How do they expect to keep up?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I seem to remember a lot of people upset about GPL V3 I don't remember how that was resolved.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

It was resolved by people not using it if they didn’t want to. Linux Kernel is still GPLv2

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