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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The best ones are thoughts that many people can relate to and they find something funny or interesting in regular stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

“I don’t have time for alcoholism—I’m too busy shooting heroin.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

At least your not a Morman

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Not so funny when it actually happens to you:

Because of really bad experiences with alcoholics as a child, I am afraid of people who drink. My psychologist and my doctor wrote that down.

When I became seriously ill and could no longer work in my old job, I had to retrain. To do this, you have to go to the German employment office and get an assessment of your strengths and weaknesses, including what your doctor and therapist have to say.

They read the paper from my doctor and my psychologist, but just skimmed over the words and decided that because the word "alcoholic" was there, I must be the alcoholic. They told me that I could get paid retraining and benefits, but only if I attended a therapy group for alcoholics once a week - me, who is afraid of alcoholics because of the abuse I suffered as a child. .... I immediately started crying and swore that I had no problem with alcohol, only with alcoholics!

It took 6 months to get someone at the job centre to actually read the papers word for word to find out that me saying "I'm not an alcoholic" was not me being an alcoholic in denial. I got a half-assed apology and my retraining 6 months after I could have started it because of this. Not to mention that every time I refused to go to AA meetings they threatened to take away my benefits and I was in such a bad mental state that I probably would have killed myself without the help of my family. Oh, and my family who tried to intervene were labelled as co-alcoholics, holding me back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They do AA in Germany? I thought that pseudo science was just an American thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Group therapy is pseudo-science?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Others have mentioned it, but to elaborate, Alcoholics Anonymous is not merely sitting in a circle and sharing your problems, but a belief system which requires you to submit to a higher power to move forward.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Knew a guy who insisted he wasn't addicted, but he can't go a day without attending an AA meeting. 40 years, non stop. Even when in other countries for work, he finds them. Left his own daughters wedding dinner to make it to one.

He runs his own chapter where he lives. He's had people follow the steps, sure, but some don't. No matter how successful the latter are, he tears them apart for "not doing it right" and has turned his back on them for not following how he did it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That is terrible and I am so sorry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

"My psychiatrist prefers to say that I have a 'substance use disorder' and cautions that the old 'alcoholism' model isn't very scientific."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Congrats, how many years are you sober?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I was diagnosed with anorexia because I was 5 kg 'underweight' and answered 'no' when asked if I had an eating disorder. Answering 'no' was apparently the justification for the diagnosis. It's still on my file 10 years later, despite now being 'over-weight' and always having had nominal blood test results. Conveniently, denying you have anorexia is a symptom, and so is asking to have the diagnosis removed, I guess.

This has completely blocked me from receiving medication and treatment, because any physical or pyschological ailment I seek help for gets blamed on 'my anorexia' and I'm referred to psychotherapy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's because denial is part of being an alcoholic. The same goes with being called a liar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Except when it's not. I so much hate this rhetoric. You know what? You can freely think that I am one, and I genuinely think I'm not. If you think that I am one, that's your problem, not mine. That's why OP's question is so hard to answer. Because everybody is just parroting this rhetoric.

And "you are clearly an alcoholic" comments in 3, 2, 1...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You can freely think that I am one, and I genuinely think I'm not. If you think that I am one, that's your problem, not mine.

I mean that's exactly the issue lol. You might not be an alcoholic, but if you were there's a solid chance you'd deny that fact.There is a good reason why parts of the 12 step program involve admitting and recognizing that there is a problem, and it's not limited to alcoholism but substance abuse in general.

A lot of people who genuinely need help refuses to see or admit that they do.