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Leaked Zoom all-hands: CEO says employees must return to offices because they can't be as innovative or get to know each other on Zoom::Zoom CEO Eric Yuan discussed the benefits of in-person work in a leaked meeting.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Zoom CEO says that his companies product is trash.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“No, no, you misunderstood! I’m just terrible at my job!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why not both?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Zoom software inefficient and ineffective. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't want to 'get to know' my coworkers. I'm not there for friendships, or a pseudo family. I'm there to do a job and be paid for it.

But, this might just be my introvert side.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter what you think, Big techs ceos are laughing their ass off every time their products gets mentioned and reach the frontpage. Purge their ads and remove their visibility

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe people can just use a different video calling program if the CEO of the company doesn't like people using it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a different video calling program

What happened to Skype? Did it just become the basis of Teams?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Skype and Lync had a baby called Teams.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a tad more complicated:

  • Skype is still Skype
  • but Skype Enterprise is just a skin strapped over the og Lync (which sucks an order of magnitude more that a black hole)
  • ~~Team is a new product developped from scratch.~~
  • Team is an overhaul of sharepoint, I stand corrected.
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every now and then Teams breaks and shows it's just a thin layer over SharePoint

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for jogging my memory, I corrected my comment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article is behind a paywall for me. I have to admit that I don't like online meetings and much prefer the direct contact with people. However, I can be totally productive remotely via email and chat. It's just that I don't like online meetings. Remote work is absolutely fine. It's even better for days that I am working alone on my computer and desk. I avoid all the traffic and waste of time to make myself presentable for the outside world. I've just realised that I don't like meetings with too many people in general; neither live nor online. A huge waste of everyone's time.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was working in big enterprises for many years with lots of online meetings, and I was so tired of them. Every day I had hours of meetings, making me so tired and unmotivated.

Now I'm at a smaller company and we don't have standups, 1 on 1s etc. I have 2 meetings per week only. It's fantastic. Made me really like this job.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have been blessed to have worked only for small companies of less than 25 people. Now I work for a company that I own (minority shareholder) with three more colleagues. Less than 15 people. We are extremely happy now, although I used to say the same for a couple more companies that I was the employee of up until a few years ago. My wife works for big organisations that last few years. I don't know how she copes with all the meetings.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

My girlfriend too, she works for big corp and have tons of meetings. But she is not interested in being a maker (like someone who does the work). She wants to be a manager that tells others what to do. And she is, and she is miserable most of the time.

I think some people just value the status higher than their happiness.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't get corporate blokes.

They spend their whole working hours finding ways to increase profits by reducing costs everywhere, to the detriment of the company even. Then we finally give them an easy way to reduce costs that make the employees happy, by removing the need for real estate. And they do a complete 180° to not do so?

Even if they have a lease of multiple years, not having to heat/cool the building nor pay the electricity is still cheaper.

Is it really about micromanagement?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

an easy way to reduce costs that make the employees happy

That's the problem, right there.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

2010 is the year we started going full "remote work" and we sold our office building in 2012. Since then we have somehow managed to thrive and innovate like crazy. I am pretty sure these guys know that what they are saying is bullshit, at least as it relates to tech. Creatives, maybe, but in tech it is far easier to screenshare and discuss than it is to lean over some dude's shoulder to look at their screen...in dark mode...with nano fonts.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

If my work told me i needed to be on the office even a day a week, i would be searching for another job immediately

They want even your time off

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ironic that the CEO of a company producing a product designed for remote online meetings telling their staff that remote online meetings don't work for his company goals.