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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.cringecollective.io/post/5626

can't make this shit up

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Getting a live virus confers immunity. Getting a crippled or dead virus in a vaccine causes the disease. It's Science 101 people!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

And the Italians employ the t.

No, I don't have any idea what that means either.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Lol, Americans.

Too bad it affects everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago

If you think only Americans are this dumb, you're gonna have a bad ~~time~~ pandemic.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hey now, don't disregard us Canadians over here.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Yeah, Canadians can be just as dumb as Americans! /j

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Enough of those idiots in Europe as well

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

This is the end result of destroying education infrastructure and allowing rampart disinfo in one's mass media leads to. Imagine the global costs if these nutcases pursue this nonsense until the virus successfully mutates to infect humans efficiently. The rich once again making money out of fear and anger and externalizing the costs to the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what the Venn diagram of these people and people that made racist jokes about dumb Chinese people eating bats.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

That's a circle.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Based on what the FDA has said it's in pasteurized milk too. Also this is from Gizmodo so most likely it's not real or it's from one tweet on the Internet or something like that.

Edit: Depending on the state if a cow tests positive for the virus it is pulled off the line by a raw milk seller. Also milk is pulled from one cow at a time lessening the chance for transfer. However, as per scientificAmerica.com, due to milking methods for large industry milk companies the virus is being transferred through equipment to other cows. There is also no evidence for or against pasteurization killing the virus totally.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to see a source for the very bold claim that pasteurization doesn't kill the virus. As far as I've read, viral fragments are still detectable in the pasteurized milk but they're all broken and inert. I am not aware of any pathogen in milk that survives pasteurization.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

From your article:

“The detection of viral RNA does not itself pose a health risk to consumers, and we expect to find this residual genetic material if the virus was there in the raw milk and was inactivated by pasteurization,” she says.

My case rests, broken pieces of a virus != infectious virus.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There is also no evidence for or against pasteurization killing the virus totally.

Ok, but no evidence here is meaningless. That means we haven't looked to double check that the thing we do to kill every virus continues to kill every virus.

Absence of evidence is only weak evidence of absence. There's a lot of strong evidence that pasteurization kills viruses indiscriminately. So no, these are absolutely not the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

There is also no evidence it's transfered through milk. Pasteurization isn't meant to kill viruses, it's meant to kill all the bacteria in the milk. I'll leave it at this. I don't like arguing online because it's a waste of time. I hope you enjoy the article, I did.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/as-bird-flu-spreads-through-cows-is-pasteurized-milk-safe-to-drink/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If they really want to literally drink the virus, let em. Just gotta appeal to their own selfishness and trick them into staying away from others so they don't "spread the immunity to the undeserving" or some bs like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah fine. Drink up.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

End animal agriculture