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Russia’s war in Ukraine is already in its 17th month. In that time, President Vladimir Putin has clearly demonstrated that he is not bothered by losses — whether they be financial, material, or human. His war will go on as long as he needs. And, judging by how the authorities have woven the so-called “special military operation” into Russian life, that will be a long time.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia is so weak and pathetic. I'd call them a joke but their war crimes aren't funny.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How to say you're a NAFO shill without saying you're a NATO shill.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Correct. I'll happily shill for the defensive alliance formed to ward off (the currently on display) Russian aggression. NATO would not exist if Russia weren't so nakedly attempting to rebuild the Soviet Union by force, an alliance that had already been litigated and abandoned by the smaller nations Russia pillaged for resources, this time without even pretending to be for the workers.

Edit: no amount of tankie brigading will convince me that Russia isn't the aggressor in the region. Imagine the brainrot required to think that the military that invaded Ukraine and is still currently there is the good team.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're in a thread that's showed you that NATO was a place to give jobs to high ranking Nazis. It's the world's most aggressive military alliance that Russia is defending itself from.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmfao "defending itself." Where's the Russian military right now pal? I, too, defend my home by attacking my neighbors.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are your neighbours putting a nuclear missile in their yard and pointing it at your house, and you're doing nothing?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia does basically this to the U.S. with its subs and it's a reality Americans are forced to deal with every day, so yes, Russia is the clear aggressor here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the 700+ US military bases around the world mean nothing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely nothing in this context, yes.

Grow up. Stop shilling for foreign powers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Typical American Exceptionalist, assumes that this forum only has Americans on it. Your chauvinism is blatant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy fuck, you right-wing traitors are out in full force today, aren't you?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

The idea that people should innately have loyalty to their government is a right wing idea, lmao. "Treason" 🤣🤣🤣

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you truly think this is a display of Russian aggression I genuinely doubt that you have any historic view on the geopolitics of the region. The conflict did not appear out of thin air in 2022. The situation is more complex than "Russian aggression"; in fact that's not even a part of the picture. Russia is responding to requests for assistance after Ukraine began bombing its own people in 2014. Many of these people voted to join Russia after this disgusting display by Ukraine. Before 2022 most of the combatants against Ukraine were regular people fighting for their homes and families. These people realize that Ukraine wants to bomb their homes and Russia is offering to fight alongside them. On the weekend before the SMO began, there were 2000 ceasefire violations in the Donbass. Between 2014 and 2022, 1 million Ukrainians immigrated to Russia because of the abuse by the Ukrainian government. And since the operation began in 2022, another 1.3 million immigrated. The people in these territories that Ukraine has zero regard for view the support they are receiving from Russia positively: they invited Russia in to assist them, and they are somewhat reliant on Russia to protect them from Ukraine.

I know life is a lot easier when you don't muddy things with context. I know that it's a lot easier to be righteous in your condemnation of a world power because they're "evil" and an "aggressor" than it is to acknowledge that the situation is more complex. I know that it's a lot easier to go along with what Western media says than to be informed and hold your own opinions. I know it feels nice to rally with everyone against a perceived enemy. I know it feels nice to feel that your country (and military) is finally doing something good for once. But you can't let wanting to feel good stand in the way of reality. The Western media has done a hell of a job propagandizing this war, attempting to remove any historical and geopolitical context, in order to gather and maintain support. Think honestly: how much historical and geopolitical context have you seen, especially from popular media sources? How much more effort is spent on raging about current "evil deeds" than understanding the desires of the people in the actual territories that have asked Russia for help?

Please read, and inform yourself. Life is less black-and-white than "Russia evil".

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Russia didn't want more of their neighbors to be NATO allies, maybe they should stop giving their neighbors reason to join.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

NATO exists to solve the problems created by NATO's existence. The reasons for joining NATO are to funnel money to America's military contractors Nothing else.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget to have a place to put nazis after ww2

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see the Russia shills and trolls have finally started to move on from reddit now lol. LarkinDePark, Yogthos. RIP.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bud those "Russian shills" have been here much longer than you

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does that change what they are?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We haven't come to a mutually agreed definition and it doesn't seem to be worth my time to do so with you.

I am simply pointing out that you're trying to claim that you were here first, when this website was created by a leftist and populated by leftists, and you only came over here when reddit being a shithole started to effect you personally.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In other words, you don't have an answer, you're defending shitty pro-Russia astroturfing and propaganda smearing.

Why do the admins tolerate this?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The admins are probably also what you would consider "Russian shills". They explicitly announced they wouldn't ban people with different ideologies which is why you're allowed to spout your western propaganda here

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

🤔 And yet they're federated with ours. Welp, we'll fix that in a hot minute

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh no, please don't isolate yourself further and prevent us and everyone else in the fediverse looking at this instance from being exposed to your opinions, that would really own us.

You'll note how this communist designed open source fediverse structure is less coercive than capitalist reddit while still applying incentives to discourage reactionary behavior. If you entirely isolate yourselves, you've just recreated the structure of reddit.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bud you need to look up the definition of astroturfing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

I'm not the one who believes the paid Russian posters are in the room with us right now, on this niche leftist community that you've graced with your redditor presence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Russian economy is set to completely reverse last year’s slump – something Putin has recently highlighted. Manufacturing and construction lead the way, alongside retail. In a broad sense, all three sectors are beneficiaries of the war. The defense sector, working in three shifts, is boosting production: in June, for example, the biggest increases were in finished metal products (+45.8% year-on-year); computers, electronics and optics (+71.6% year-on-year), radar equipment (+75.4% year-on-year) and electrical equipment (+32.1% year-on-year). Production capacities are running at their maximum.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So whats the plan? How can this end?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He can wait to see if Trump becomes president, because we all know how it will end with his BFF in charge.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

America is far from the only country providing support to Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Once US turns off the tap this war ends immediately. It's really that simple.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it really isn't. The rest of eastern Europe's countries remember what it was like to live under the Russian thumb and they have plenty of modern weapons and well-trained soldiers salivating to ensure Russia is going to be a crippled husk for the next few generations. Western Europe is none to fond of Russia either. And if America stops helping because an obvious Russian puppet president has taken power, that's only going to make it worse.

America may be the sole "superpower", but bear in mind that that means Russia is not a "superpower". They're a peer to the various countries of Europe at best, and by this point I would not even call them that. Ukraine has more tanks than Russia does now. America's already done a lot of the heavy lifting in breaking Russia, if they bowed out now it's not like everything resets to the way it was in 2021. Russia is still on the ropes.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

The rest of eastern Europe’s countries remember what it was like to live under the Russian thumb

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

You must know by now that Russiagate was a hoax?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

It's great to have a new perspective on this conflict and I personally welcome your work and effort here. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

But I thought that the Slavic brainpan couldn't produce ball bearings?! /s