I don't know how there is even a discussion. It's a war, two sides shoot each other.
If you start a war, expect to be attacked. If you help one side in a war by providing weapons, expect them to be used.
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I don't know how there is even a discussion. It's a war, two sides shoot each other.
If you start a war, expect to be attacked. If you help one side in a war by providing weapons, expect them to be used.
There has been an attempt at a balancing act by USA and Europe, and while Europe has abandoned the idea, USA is keeping it.
The idea is that if Russia lose to much to quickly, it may destabilize Russia, and that could create a dangerous situation with the Russian nukes.
So USA was sort of in a Limbo, that Russia could not be allowed to win, but they couldn't be allowed to lose and be destabilized either.
This idea however is becoming less and less popular in USA, and there is speculation that USA will soon lift these restrictions.
Solution: Here Ukraine, here's some nukes. Finlsnd, you get some nukes too, hey all the baltic states besides Belarus gets nukes!
I mean, just look at what happens to states without nukes. Gaddafi himself agreed to give up his nukes and how did that turn out for Libya?
No no. I'm not saying those states give up their nukes. As far as I know Ukraine doesn't have any.
I'm saying the USA supply those places nukes to get Putin to calm down.
He's agreeing with you
Sorry, seems to be a misunderstanding, I'm supporting that idea using Libya as a negative example of what bad things can happen when you don't have them. They went from an African Economic powerhouse to an open air slave state all under the orders of a President that won a nobel peace prize.
Ukraine has had nukes before. Maybe this time if the codes aren’t kept in Moscow the attitude will change
Taiwan next!
I was banned from World [email protected] for agreeing with this. Of course they have the right to strike at Russia. They are at war.
I suspect they mostly didn't want their tech being examined by russia too easily, but at some point there will be so many scrap parts behind the front it doesn't matter any more.
Yeah I mean, they use then in Crimea which the russians still hold, so it doesn’t really make sense.
Looking forward to the policy change
I'm tempted to offer Florida to Russia if they sign a peace deal
Isn't there a Geneva convention against inflicting such horror on an enemy?
They do have experience dealing with Georgians.
Good to see for Ukraine.