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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Grabe sa kabila yung mga upvoted comments on jeepney modernization. Poverty porn daw or paawa effect yung argument against it when the OP literally said on the title he's for modernization and that the implementation has to be realistic. Tbf, yung analogy na quoted is laughingly bad, but it's not hard to see the point being made.

Furthermore, a comment saying that arbitrarily copying public transport fixes from other countries and applying it to Metro Manila won't work is getting downvoted. Pakita daw ng studies na it won't work, lol. The onus of proof lies on those saying it will work, hindi sa nagsasabi na it won't. It's common sense to assume that what works elsewhere won't work everywhere, although the guy touched partly on why he thinks so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I did notice that there were a lot more people who mock things as "anti-poor." There were only specific people who did it before, but it seems to becoming more popular in r/ph.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah it's weird. Hindi ko alam if nasa 2ph4u ako or r/PH.

For all of r/PH's annoyances and faults, it's still the place that shaped much of my present politics and personal outlook. And to see it devolve into that kind of DDS-ish circlejerking makes me wish I wasn't putting down the 2020-22 posters much, lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Despite his allegiance to the NPA, grandenko was one of the more articulate posters on why being pro-poor is good. His absence seems to have allowed the anti-poor people to become more popular.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's been a while but I do have vague recollections of the Absalon murder since I was vocally against it, however I don't recall gradenko "defending" the NPA. He was only stating that it wasn't in violation of the land mine treaty being that it was a radio detonated IED.

Then again, I'm not privy to all of his posts and he might have sworn support to the NPA or outright defended them that I wasn't aware of. But from the many posts I've read of him (both in Reddit and the SomethingAwful Forums), my take is that he's mostly your typical left-leaning individual that wouldn't categorically shun extremists because underneath all the violence and mafioso tactics of the NPA, they have similar ideologies and "turning against" each other would be in the best interests of the capitalists they're all banding against.

I've been here long enough to understand that politics is complicated and a spectrum. I've even come to begrudgingly "respect" and comprehend the minds of DDS and Marcos loyalists even though I detest them.

Edit: Restored, was editing it but ended up deleting lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's fair, what I do know though is that he would fit right in at lemmygrad and hexbear.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

He actually ignored all of my attempts to join Lemmy so he's either aware of how it would look like if he joined a community that has a "rep" for being an alleged tankie news aggregation forum or he just doesn't want to. He's not the only mod that didn't move here anyway, lol. The few mods that did either don't post anymore or do it semi-regularly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's been a while but I do have vague recollections of the Absalon murder since I was vocally against it, however I don't recall him "defending" the NPA. He was only stating that it wasn't in violation of the land mine treaty being that it was a radio detonated IED.

Then again, I'm not privy to all of gradenko's posts and he might have sworn support to the NPA or outright defended them that I wasn't aware of. But from what I've read (both in Reddit and the SomethingAwful Forums), my take is that he's mostly your typical left-leaning individual that wouldn't categorically shun extremists because underneath all the violence and mafioso tactics of the NPA, they have similar ideologies.

I've been here long enough to understand that politics is complicated and a spectrum. I've even come to begrudgingly "respect" and comprehend the minds of DDS and Marcos loyalists even though I detest them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

his allegiance to the NPA, grandenko

TIL. Holy shit. Tbh, i enjoyed his comments. Very observant and articulate. Seemed he didn't let his bias show, now that I know his allegiance.

Is that why he's not a mod there anymore?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He's still a mod as far as I know, but became inactive around the time of the reddit blackout. And yeah, he always defended the NPA when he could, even during that time where they used land mines.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Gotcha. I might not be remembering right since it's been a while since i visited r/philippines.

even during that time where they used land mines.

Damn... Never saw that comment/post but it's hard af to defend using landmines.

I appreciate the answer.