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I don't find Jerry funny, like at all. I like Costanza but I adore Kramer
Yeah Jerry was such a whiney twat.
Still is
In a show about horrible people he literally just played himself.
Jerry was a straight guy in the show, is funny because he is not funny. He's just a normal guy with a few good observations
He's there to anchor the show
Like Larry David is way funnier
Idk if you've seen the last seasons of curb but like, it does not really age well either
How so?
Idk, he just comes off as mean and a boomer
All tv shows named after the main character are better without that character (spin-offs excluded obvs).
Seinfeld
Dawsons creek
Rosanne
Ellen
Exception that proves the rule
Columbo
Another exception: Archer
Buffy the vampire slayer
Film spin-off
What ?
BTVS was a film first, so I'm claiming spin-off. But you are right, that show would be less without her.
No way !! a film ?? Is it any good ?
Good lord the trailer is amazing.
https://m.imdb.com/video/vi21805593/?playlistId=tt0103893&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi
by which I mean, it's deliciously, ridiculously early 90s
Watching it now it almost seems like a parody.
well thanks for the discovery anyway, It looks worth a watch to me
If you are a fan of the show, yes.
I have teenage memories of it. Not sure it was really any good...
Bond spin-off?
Homage maybe, but not a spinoff :-)
Yeah. I'm stretching my rule as much as possible. I'm basically trying to exclude all characters that have already been audience tested. Parody is sort of included in that.
Ha ha, fair enough, I admire your determination to make this rule stick!
Another counterpoint though - Quincy ME. Oh course you could argue that it's not all that good even with Jack Klugman's crime solving coroner.
Oh, another one - Father Ted!
Yeah. I may have to exclude medical/investigative.
House, Sherlock, Columbo, Reacher, Lucifer
Veronica Mars, Ironside, Chuck...
Arguably Fawlty Towers too?
Nah. Fatty Owls is named after the hotel.
Chuck is all about Charles Carmichael. (Streeeeeeeetch).
Ha ha, fair enough. I see I've met someone as stubborn as I am ;-)
I don't think Frasier would work without Frasier
Cheers spin-off. Doesn't count.
E.g. joey, young Sheldon, mork & mindy.