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(May 24, 2024 / JNS)

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi agreed to restore the flow of aid to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip during a telephone call with U.S. President Joe Biden on Friday.

Egypt halted U.N. aid deliveries into the southern city of Rafah after the Israeli military took control of the Gazan side of the Egypt-Gaza border. In Friday’s call, el-Sisi agreed to let the aid flow through Israel’s Kerem Shalom crossing near the Egyptian border.

“President Biden welcomed the commitment from President el-Sisi to permit the flow of U.N.-provided humanitarian assistance from Egypt through the Kerem Shalom crossing on a provisional basis for onward distribution throughout Gaza,” the White House stated in its readout of the call. “This will help save lives.”

The Egyptian readout of the call said that the deliveries would consist of “humanitarian aid and fuel” and would continue “temporarily until a legal mechanism is reached to reoperate the Rafah crossing from the Palestinian side.”

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Egypt signed away control of their border as part of their peace agreement with Israel lmao.

Sisi has no jurisdiction, and even if he did Israel already controls the crossing, meaning he'd have to setup a new one and send military power to keep it up.

Of course he's just a slimy [100 adjective long insult] who sucks [another 100 long adjective insult] so there's a 0% chance that'll ever happen.

I'm not even sure why Biden even bothered because everyone already knows this. Unless he thinks he can get Israel to comply somehow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I'm not even sure why Biden even bothered because everyone already knows this.

Because a lot of people actually don't and will likely fall for this brazen PR stunt.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Rafah is the only Gazan border crossing that isn’t controlled by Israel

Israel and Egypt signed a peace treaty in 1982, which saw the Jewish state withdraw from the Sinai Peninsula that it had captured from Egypt in 1967.

Israel then opened the Rafah crossing, which it controlled until it withdrew from Gaza in 2005. Between then and Hamas’ takeover of Gaza in 2007, the crossing was controlled by the European Union, which worked closely with Egyptian officials.

Between 2005 and 2007, some 450,000 passengers used the crossing with an average of about 1,500 people per day.

The Rafah crossing has since been tightly controlled, with limited access and lengthy bureaucratic and security processes required of Palestinians wishing to cross into Egypt.

Travelers require an exit permit from Hamas and an entry permit from Egypt

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Normally this would be correct, but recently Israel took over the Palestine side of the crossing as part of their invasion of Rafah. The first thing they did while taking over was shut down aid deliveries.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's true, I was addressing the claim that Egypt lost control of the crossing after their peace deal with Israel.

Israel and Egypt currently share control of the crossing. And until recently, Egypt refused to reopen the crossing. So it's not accurate to imply that Egypt has no say in what happens, or that Biden's intervention was irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s still misleading; the treaty gives Israel the right to veto anything through the crossing even if Egypt owns the crossing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Both sides can restrict a border crossing. This is true of all border crossings, not just the one with Egypt.

So for example Canada could block movement of any or all people or goods through its border with the US, if for some reason it wanted to. The US could do the same. The UK could block the EU, and the EU could block the UK. Ukraine has restricted movement of Ukrainian men through its border with Poland, and Poland at some point restricted the movement of Ukrainian grain. And so on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s a lame attempt to misdirect; Israel is blocking aid through the crossing. I don’t care what Canada or other countries do when the outcome is the same. And not just aid; Americans were blocked from fleeing Gaza including doctors and medical volunteers and it required the US State Department to pressure Israel into letting them out.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Egypt halted U.N. aid deliveries into the southern city of Rafah

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

According to JNS, which explicitly says in their donation request at the bottom of the article that they’re trying to defend Israel. No bias there right?

Israel seized the crossing in violation of the treaty. Israel blocked aid until the ICJ chastised them, then they said they’d allow aid through despite blocking it, now the US pressured Egypt to accept their loss and treaty violations and ship things anyway.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok, have another source

Egypt had blocked aid from entering the enclave via its territory since Israel’s seizure of the Rafah crossing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Again, like I said above. Israel broke the treaty and seized the crossing. They initially restricted everything and then announced they were opening some of it after international pressure. Egypt then later decided it wasn’t going to play Israel’s game with its seized crossing and didn’t allow stuff to be sent, now they’re relenting on behalf of Palestinians despite the loss of Egyptian property in Israeli theft.

In what way does this make Israel look good in any of this?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not trying to make Israel look good.

To quote myself:

Israel and Egypt currently share control of the crossing. And until recently, Egypt refused to reopen the crossing. So it's not accurate to imply that Egypt has no say in what happens, or that Biden's intervention was irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

One more time. Israel broke the treaty and seized the crossing. Claiming they share control is not true anymore. Egypt is not going to accept this change or play along and validate Israel annexing more land for themselves and you should stop trying to pretend Egypt shares blame in their victimization.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Israel seized the Gazan side of the crossing from Hamas. That means the crossing used to be shared by Egypt and Hamas, and now it's shared by Egypt and Israel.

This is not a "treaty violation". The 2005 Agreement on Movement and Access was between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, not Israel and Egypt. The PA, not Hamas, was authorized to administer the Gazan side of the crossing on behalf of Israel, provided they were supervised by the EU. Hamas has no rights at all under this agreement.

Egypt may prefer its old partner to its new one, but ultimately it has zero say over who administers the Gazan side of the crossing.

At no point did anyone take Egypt's side of the crossing away from Egypt. And since crossing requires permission from both sides, Egypt can control what goes through the crossing now just as it did before.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Still wrong. For someone who claims not to defend Israel, that’s all you seem to do on this sub.

The AMA was a deal between Israel and PA but it does not supersede the 1979 Egypt-Israel treaty. Israel doesn’t care if it violates the AMA because it always broke deals with the PA, but the Egypt treaty is different. Israel seized one side of the crossing but they seized the Egyptian side and even got into a firefight with Egyptian soldiers, in open violation of the original treaty and the Philadelphi Accords.

I’m clearly not going to convince you because your post history is only pedantic defense of Israel. So I’m going to leave it here; Israel broke treaties and international laws and tries to keep the thinnest veneer of deniability when it commits its war crimes, but people are seeing through it more and more despite their sophistry. Peace.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Israel seized one side of the crossing but they seized the Egyptian side

I don't believe this is true.

All reporting I've seen says they seized the Palestinian side.

CNN:

Israeli military says it has captured Palestinian side of Rafah crossing

Guardian:

IDF claims control of Gaza side of Rafah crossing

BBC:

The Israeli military says its troops have taken "operational control" of the Palestinian side of the Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt.