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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Your daily reminder that despite producing most of the world's goods, China isn't even near the top generator of CO2 per capita, sitting at around half that of the US.

Meanwhile, China is building not one, two or three, but twenty one. Yes 21! New nuclear reactors.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/30/how-china-became-king-of-new-nuclear-power-how-us-could-catch-up.html

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

It's starting to feel like old Lemmy again with these trash headlines being torn apart

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

China literally produces almost 30% of annual CO2 emissions. Maybe you are using the CCPs data, in which they lied for years that they were beating expectations in reduction, when the reality was they had increased emissions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You don't understand what per capita means do you?

They produce around 30% of the global manufacturing output, so that's basically one to one. Yet they represent 15% of the world population, meaning half of their production is for the benefit of others.

How many nuclear plants is the US building right now already?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

I do, and I know that as they continue to emit more that per Capita argument means less and less. They are emitting more each year, and I have no doubt they will cut corners with their reactors. Why? Because they cut corners everywhere else while lieing to your face. That's what made their Fukushima complaints so hilarious.

The US doesn't build enough of them. Wish they would and I continue to argue for more. Lemmy alone is filled with anti-nuke imbeciles thinking they can achieve the same results with solar.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Ah, because using Western data that claims natural gas emissions are dominated by burning rather than methane leakage are...SO much more reliable.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In what reality does China even get close to making a quarter of the world's products let alone "most"?

Edit: the source below talks about pre-COVID numbers and manufacturing has absolutely moved out of China since then.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you want to be specific, they make 28.7% (2019) of the world's manufacturing output. So yes, more than a quarter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for supporting your comments with sources.

producing most of the world’s goods

China makes the most goods, but most goods are not made by China. They are the top producer, but produce less than 50% of all goods.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That has changed since COVID. They are under a quarter as manufacturing has been moved away from China.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

[citation needed]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't China's manufacturing output increase by 25% in dollar terms since 2019?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Would dollar terms be relevant metric since the costs went up post COVID? It's total goods manufactured and that dipped.