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    [–] [email protected] 84 points 11 months ago (50 children)

    It's disgusting that this post has not been removed, has a 96% postive vote ratio, has over 1K upvotes and is sitting at the top of All after almost a day.

    This isn't a Linux meme. It's a celebration of abuse, abusive behaviour and abusive people.

    All the people ITT condoning or making even the slightest accommodations for this behaviour ought to be ashamed and need to take a good, long look in a mirror.

    What are the moderators of this community thinking? Are you reading this stuff? Do some of you agree with any of it?

    Of all the things to celebrate about Linus and Linux this is not one of them.

    There is no value in leaving this post up. There is nothing to be learned or gained by revealing just how gross some supposed Linux supporters may be.

    Does anyone ITT seriously think this is how Linus or Linux developers want to be remembered and celebrated for their dedication and decades of toil?

    Do you think anyone that's been on the receiving end of this kind of abuse on the job or in the home wants to jump onto Lemmy today to see this celebration of abusive and awful behaviour.

    There are no excuses to be made. It doesn't matter that this happened many years ago and that Linus has managed to overcome behaving like this. The post itself is now the issue.

    The many comments that have made even the slightest excuse for this kind of behaviour are awful and damaging to the reputations of Linus, Linux and the Linux community.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    I couldn't disagree more with you, and I truly feel that the lack of being direct is why we have an overwhelming amount of mediocrity in the "professional" corporate world. When everyone is just nice and we go the passive aggressive route, or have constructive feedback in the vein of "I can see you worked sooooo hard on this", we get garbage.

    If you want people to do their minimums, "act your wage" and all that shit, put your efforts accordingly. If you're trying to be a part of something excellent and eschew mediocrity, then give your best or fuck off.

    [–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Well there's a difference between "it's not good enough" and " fuck you you fucking code fart". Being direct doesn't equate to being an asshole. You can be direct while also being respectable and polite. But it's still funny watching people lose this shit.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    " fuck you you fucking code fart"

    Linus didn't call Mauro anything at all, much less a code fart. If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying "I don't want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again".

    How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

    No, that was just an example. I just meant it comes off as aggressive as all. Especially the Stfu part

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

    How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it.

    I would say I did read not only this email, but whole chain, but I did not complain to say that.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

    Most people would agree middle ground is better, but lots of people see the raw anger as refreshing and real

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

    ENOENT is not a valid error return from an ioctl. Never has been, never will be. ENOENT means "No such file and directory", and is for path operations. ioctl's are done on files that have already been opened, there's no way in hell that ENOENT would ever be valid.

    Sounds more like "it's not good enough".

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