Remember when we told everyone what he was going to do and millions of voters told us we were fearmongering, lying, exaggerating, or that he "didn't mean it"?
I used to love being right. Now I fucking hate it.
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You can do both. I regularly slap down mofos who say "I didn't vote to lose (government subsidies they need to survive)"
Oh yes you did! brings up the section of project 2025 that brutally guts said subsidies
Genuine and serious question: Where does that get you?
As good as it may feel to call these people out for their ignorance and stupidity (and yes, they were very ignorant and very stupid), what is it actually doing to help stop Trump's agenda right now?
Telling them off might feel good, and right, and incredibly justified, but it's not going to win people over.
What America needs right now is a mass movement against Trump's agenda, and a big part of building that movement is going to have to be reaching out to those people who are disgusted with the reality of Trump's agenda and bringing them into the fold, even if they helped put it in motion in the first place.
Where did I say I'm calling them ignorant and stupid?
They say, "I didn't vote for [x]
I tell them calmly, "Yes you did, because of [y] in Project 2025. They said they would do it, they even printed the manual."
So what's your communication approach, then? Remaining ignorant piles of shit won't exactly make them change their minds, either.
Help them out of their ignorance. Start by agreeing with their frustrations and then continue to explore common ground from there.
And when I say "agree with their frustrations" I mean the stuff that you can legitimately agree on. Start with this tax plan, which fucks over anyone making less than about $300,000 a year. Maybe let them know that Trump instituted similar tax cuts last time around; that this isn't a one time mistake. Maybe help them to understand that a lot of the moves Trump and his team are making right now are straight out the Project 2025 playbook; studies showed that the more people learned about Project 2025 the more they hated it. Trump had to pretend he knew nothing about it, so showing them that he's now following it to the letter might get you somewhere.
Find the places where you can agree, and work from there.
And it’s been like that since 2016. These people never learn.
Since 1968
People were mad at the status quo. When times are shit, change can seem attractive.
Even if in reality the change presented by Trump only makes shit worse.
So happy they’re getting what they voted for!
Don't worry, I've been assured that nothing has changed, this is all business as usual, and I'm a filthy liberal for saying that the past month alone has been utterly fucked to a disproportionate degree.
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I've been fucking Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park for the better part of a decade by this point and damn do I hate being right all the time
I’ve been fucking Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park for the better part of a decade by this point
He must be exhausted. Give the poor man a break.
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They support his agenda. Just not when it happens to them, they just want others to suffer.
"He's not hurting the right people"
-some piece of shit from his first term.
So, they are just dumb right? He said exactly what he was going to do.
Fundamentally, if you voted for Trump you do support his agenda. That's how voting works.
You just don't want to own it.
They think they've "won" as if we didn't all lose
That's because fascists make you look at a problem and then suggest themselves as the solution. Whatever problem ruffles the most feathers will be part of their campaign. In Trumps case it's immigrants, deep state, and wokeism. The rest of his agenda gets ignored. Tax cuts for the rich, power to the president, imperialism, etc. It's all meaningless as long as you are mad at something.
It's obviously pretty stupid, but we shouldn't act like the Americans are especially dumb, this is happening all over the globe.
People see: "economy is bad" so people vote out whoever is in power and vote in whoever screams the loudest that they have a magical fix. I would be shocked if the average trump, AFD etc. voter spends more then 15 minutes researching their vote (outside the endless stream of political content on yt and tiktok).
True, only with Trump we already had a round of him trying to run us into the ground while trying to sell off everything not bolted down, while also golfing like he was on the PGA tour (quantity NOT quality), and up-charging his secret service detail and foreign "reps" that stayed at all his properties and funneling all that illegal money back into his coffers while funding everything he did on tax payer dollars.
But yeah, he was clearly the choice to "stick it to the man".
It’s obviously pretty stupid, but we shouldn’t act like the Americans are especially dumb, this is happening all over the globe.
Is it really, though? Which other first-world country would you say is even remotely as far down the rabbit hole of idiocy as the USA?
Argentina, Brazil, Germany to an extent, France is flirting with it, Italy, the Netherlands (my country) is fucking around and finding out, Hungary has been at it since before it was cool, Indonesia elected a literal was criminal. And that’s all the cases I know about.
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They wanted to own the libs.
The dog caught the car
What lies. Trump was openly a piece of human shit and voters got what they voted for. The people that voted for him do get to take responsibility for the complete shit show we will experience going forward.
Well of course, because the only trait they were really interested in was that he wasn't the other guy.
Politics has become tribalist nonsense.
You know what? At this point it wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t.
I didn’t wanna get all BlueAnon at first but some of the shit these assholes have said are almost hinting that they rigged some swing states and just have to fucking brag about it.
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People didn't vote for Trump, they voted against Biden.
This chart might be a little bit out of date by this point, but the basic pattern it's pointing out is still pretty obvious
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Traitors voted for Trump.
They didn't vote for Trump, they vote for "whatever the liberals hate".
They don't care if they suffer too. They only want to watch the "others" hurt.
One of my favorite quotes is "A Republican would eat shit if they thought a liberal would have to smell their breath."
They wanted him in the white house, but they also wanted the democrats to stop him from implementing the crazy stuff he proposed. They wanted a reason to complain about democrats blocking stuff - then democrats came up a couple of votes short in both house and senate.
Dems couldn't have run a worse campaign if they tried.
and people don't want to acknowledge that maybe they did, because "both sides" is a fucking meme to stop you from looking behind the curtain.
Americas owners got exactly what they paid for and the people think it was their idea.
Get rid of FPTP to open the door to third parties in the US.
Did we though? There was a whole lot of legally cheating (gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc.) and maybe some not so legal cheating as well by his election and judge minions.
It should not have even been close. That is the problem.
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Reminder that everyone who didn't vote still bears responsibility: Not making a decision is still a decision.
Edit: Anyone who disagrees can eat all of my shit and hair. <3
🎶 If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice 🎶
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There are zero excuses that anyone can use to claim that they didn't know what Trump was going to do or that it would be this bad. We lived through the first term where we saw the shit he was doing. We saw every tweet, post, and video where he said exactly what he wanted to do. Remember when he literally said he wanted to be a dictator? Yea, it was 100% out there the whole time. If that wasn't enough, every word out of his mouth has been hate directed at some demographic. Deciding that that was acceptable was already too much. I will never forgive anyone that voted for that Nazi.
Because the average American is a moron.
Wrong, the average American is purposefully undereducated and sheltered from the world.
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Never let them forget. They are not allowed to be upset or plead for sympathy!
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If only there was someone who was running for President who was on a major party ticket and had an agenda that - for the most part - was supported by the majority of Americans.
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They just couldn't vote for a black woman.
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