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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

U.S. healthcare on average is around 2-3x as expensive as countries with socialized healthcare

I seriously doubt it's only that much, but even if it is, it's the cost of production, not the cost to the end user.

With socialised medicine, you don't pay yourself, that's the fucking point. You pay taxes and the system is payed from everyone's taxes.

I broke my arm last year here in Finland. I think the whole bill for an overnight stay and surgery and all the medications was... around 50 euros. Now ofc that doesn't cover even the cost of a single worker for a few hours, let alone anesthesiologists, surgeons, nurses, physiotherapists, etc. It's just the part I have to pay straight up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

but even if it is, it's the cost of production, not the cost to the end user.

You want to say shareholders give up their yachts?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Australia has a mixed system.

Theres some nuance to this but essentially the government covers most things but you might wait a long time, especially for anything that isnt actively killing you. You don't get to pick your doctor, you get the treatments that are govt approved and you get shuffled out the door just as fast as humanly possible.

Private health insurance means you can choose your specialist, you have more of a say in your treatments and if your specialist says "If you want to go home tomorrow you can, but I'd like you to stay in for 3 days ideally" and you can if you want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You don't get to pick your doctor,

you get shuffled out the door just as fast as humanly possible.

Please fix. Even in Russia of all places I can choose specialist. Well, if there is specialist at all. Regional healthcare is kinda fucked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

That reminds me of an old joke. Life in Soviet Union is not different from USA. For Dollars, you get everything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I broke my arm last year here in Finland. I think the whole bill for an overnight stay and surgery and all the medications was… around 50 euros.

Finland is famously having major problems with public healthcare currently because the costs versus clients relation is too low.