this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2024
253 points (93.2% liked)

Showerthoughts

29786 readers
255 users here now

A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. A showerthought should offer a unique perspective on an ordinary part of life.

Rules

  1. All posts must be showerthoughts
  2. The entire showerthought must be in the title
  3. Avoid politics
    • 3.1) NEW RULE as of 5 Nov 2024, trying it out
    • 3.2) Political posts often end up being circle jerks (not offering unique perspective) or enflaming (too much work for mods).
    • 3.3) Try c/politicaldiscussion, volunteer as a mod here, or start your own community.
  4. Posts must be original/unique
  5. Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Amazon is running a Prime Day sale on July 16 and 17. Setting aside the fact that this is two separate days, neither 716 nor 717 are prime numbers. They should've done 7/19 instead.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I maintain that dd/mm/yyyy and mm/dd/yyyy are stupid.

Big -> small is how we read numbers:

yyyy/mm/dd

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I prefer the simple dy/my/dy/my format (with the year reversed for added ease of use). For example, today would be 14/02/70/72.

NIST and ISO have stopped responding to my emails, but I'm optimistic that the Türk Standardları Enstitüsü will eventually adopt it as their preferred standard.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I prefer the MYOWN-16080 standard of yy/dm/md/y/y. Also the year units are randomly swapped for encryption

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

What a shitty standard. Where are the check bits? Are you using PGP?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

lmaoooo and the fucking year digits are backwards 🤣🤣🤣 i knew the date and it still took me a while to figure it out

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Julian date club 24199

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, but you have to admit mm/dd/yyyy is way more stupid. Small -> big makes more sense than middle -> small -> big

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For every day purposes, absolutely. For programming? Nope, the only right answer is big->small.

Honestly, the alternative to every day use is to stop using numbers for the month

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The problem with three letter month codes is language to language difference. Numbers are more universal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Actually, I disagree that DD/MM/YYYY even qualifies as being small to big.

If you actually treat it as a counter from 01/01/2024 onward, note that the first digit that moves is actually the second digit in the 8-digit representation. In terms of significance, the most significant digit is the 5th one in the string, then counting down the significance it's 6th, then 7th, then 8th, then jumps back to the 3rd, then the 4th, then the 1st, then the 2nd.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

A day is less than a month, is less than a year

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

12 is smaller than 31 is smaller than ∞, though.

Really, we can all come up with vastly reasonable reasons the date system we prefer makes the most sense... but in reality it's all very subjective. Not only will different methods be appropriate for different situations... but some people just prefer their own way.

It's all really moot, though. We should have been using stardates for the last 55 years anyways.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Yes, and recurring dates naturally drop the year, so MM/DD better fits that general rule.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What if we just count all the nanoseconds since 1601 and divide by 100.

I still don't get that timestamp approach. Especially after learning how unix/linux handle it...

At least modern AD tools can automatically do the date conversions now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Because it’s a basic data structure that holds time, instead of multiple interrelated ints…. And it’s easy to do math on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes but small is more relevant since you're more likely to know the big. therefore i propose we put minutes ahead of hours.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Big is more important than small. If your use case has the big stuff in context, drop the big.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

^^ This is the only acceptable way to write out the date numerically. I'll die on this hill.